Sheriff Deputy Accidentally Shoots Wife of Fellow Deputy in Concealed Weapon Class

Smith, a South Carolina Law Enforcement Division certified Concealed Weapons Permit Course instructor, was unaware a round had been chambered into the pistol.

(?!)

Didn't I just seed an article about a Pastors daughter being accidentally shot in the head ..... because a gun owner did not realize there was a bullet in the chamber?

click, click, search, search .....

Oh yeah, ....here it is; Pastor's Daughter Accidentally Shot in Head inside Florida Church

Then while seeding this article, I came across another "I didn't think it was loaded" story; Man Brings Gun to Party, Accidentally Kills 20 Yr. Old Woman

Now, I certainly don't think we need to abolish the 2nd amendment, but we do need to do more to insure the safety of people around those that are exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights.

2 votes

#3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:52 AM EST

Jer', i'm assuming you think and believe this Piggie should be criminally charged?

#3.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:46 AM EST

onefan51

Jerry

I just finished reading the two seeds you referenced. Sad stories. Especially for the two victims. IMHO, there is absolutely no reason to take a handgun to church. And if it's necessary to take a handgun to a party, the reason for not going to the party should outweigh any reason for going.

... but we do need to do more to insure the safety of people around those that are exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights

Agreed.

3 votes

#3.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:35 PM EST

Jer', i'm assuming you think and believe this Piggie should be criminally charged?

Charged with what?

Illegally Discharging a Firearm would probably be dismissed because the defense will say it was an accident. Criminal Negligence? Maybe, ....it would be up to the D.A. to decide if they could make it stick.

But this guy should certainly loose his certification as an instructor, and be subjected to disciplinary action.

2 votes

#3.3 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:11 PM EST

Hold up now! On the other post you seeded, about the shooting at the Church, you went on and on about how they needed to be charged for the gun accidently going off. I said they shouldn't, as it was an accident. You said they should be.

What makes this case any different? And for Christs sake, this was an Instructor!

Remember these words? You should, as their yours.....

IMO, anyone that injures a person as a result of the incorrect handling of a firearm should be charged with reckless endangerment.

1 vote

#3.4 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:23 PM EST

It's a different case. The nit-wit at the church should not have a loaded gun in the building under those circumstances, period.

The nit-wit instructor was at a gun safety class where a loaded gun would be expected. The fact that he is an instructor makes the shooting ridicules, for sure, however the irony is, that because he is an instructor and was expected to be handling a loaded firearm in an instruction class it is likely he would have any criminal charges dismissed. Therefore it is unlikely the DA would attempt to bring charges.

Don't get me wrong Scream, I too would like to see the @!$%# get charged, but I'm being practical in expressing my expectations rather than my wants.

2 votes

#3.5 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:03 AM EST

Actually Jer', I don't think this clown should be charged either. (I still say the moron at the Church shouldn't be charged.)

Instructor or not, the fact of the matter is mistakes happen in life sometimes. Sure, it was dumb as @!$%#. But in no way was he showing any type of malicious intent or showing off or anything like that. He just @!$%#ed up totally by accident.

Sometimes @!$%# happens.....

1 vote

#3.6 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:40 PM EST

Sometimes @!$%# happens.....

Like backing over one of your kids in your driveway?

Some "accidents" should never happen.

I had a driving instructor once tell me "There is no such thing as an 'accident', there only 'collisions' as result of someone making a mistake."

IMO, anyone that makes a mistake resulting in the bodily harm of another person should be charged with negligence.

2 votes

#3.7 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST

Carolyn Johansen

Always treat a gun as if it is loaded i.e. has a round in the chamber. This guy is a moron and should lose his position and be sued for his carelessness. DUH! First and most important rule for anyone learning to shoot a firearm. I have been shooting guns since I was 10 years old. My daughter just go her concealed carry permit. Thank goodness most gun owners are not like this moron.

2 votes

#4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:35 AM EST

I'm sure my opinion will be unpopular here, but perhaps it's time to reevaluate the 2nd Amendment. Times change, and so do the needs of the population. The United States of 2012 is a very different place than the nation was in 1791. The average modern citizen doesn't need to hunt to feed their family, nor do they need to protect their frontier homestead from roving bands of hostiles. I would be in favor of much more restrictive gun laws if they are well written.

I am a gun owner, and I come from a family of gun enthusiasts. I grew up around firearms, and I had respect for their deadly force drilled into me daily. I also realize that there is no requirement for a gun owner to have the level of training I've received.

I would rather give up something I enjoy and make our society a safer place, than selfishly cling to my guns and continue to read about senseless accidental firearm deaths. No amount of potential enjoyment, or potential protection is worth an actual human life.

2 votes

#5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:11 PM EST

Your right.

Rethinking the 2nd Amendment is out of the question.

Our right to bear Arms is the one single Amendment that should never be changed in any way.

It's the only law we have that keeps our own Government in check to some degree.

No way we even think about touching it. I know this. The Government would be prying my guns out of my cold dead fingers and thats the only way they would ever get them......

1 vote

#5.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:16 PM EST

ScreamingForVengeance

It's the only law we have that keeps our own Government in check to some degree.

...except for the fact that we are governed by our own citizens. As someone who served in the Army during wartime, I can assure you that you wouldn't last 15 minutes in a firefight with experienced killers. If our own military turned on its citizenry, we would be nothing more than a speed-bump. So stop fooling yourself.

No way we even think about touching it. I know this. The Government would be prying my guns out of my cold dead fingers and thats the only way they would ever get them......

Closed minds have never accomplish anything of value. You seem fixated on an outdated mentality. Why don't you act like an adult, and set your guns aside willingly? You don't need them. No one wants to kill you and take your stuff. Your attitude is bellicose, and overly hormonal.

2 votes

#5.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:13 AM EST

ZEN:

And you and your attitude is flat out dangerous. And anybody else who thinks like you do is dangerous to everything American.

Because you call something outdated doesn't make it so. Jesus man, what Universe do you live in? And tell me this.

Just how do you propose you would protect yourself if necessary?

"Excuse me for a few minutes Mr Robber/Killer/Rapist. I need to wait for the Police to come. Sit tight for a second".

Good luck with that. You'll be DEAD or RAPED before anybody get's there to help you. No need for them. @!$%#.

You don't need a Smart Phone either, but I bet you have one.

Theres alot of things you don't need, but still have. And it's better to have it if needed, than to need it and not have it. In the end, you are entitled to your own beliefs in the matter.

I just THANK GOD that you and people like you are in the Minority in this Country. So you stick to yours and I'll stick to mine and we'll let God sort it out.....;

1 vote

#5.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:21 AM EST

onefan51

And you and your attitude is flat out dangerous

Include me and my attitude also. I retired from the U. S. Armed Services and agree with Zen 100 percent.

3 votes

#5.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:39 AM EST

Which is your right.

You Served in order to protect that right. Which I appreciate. However, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Disarming the Citizens is the 2nd step in Total Governmental Control.....

2 votes

#5.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM EST

ScreamingForVengeance

Disarming the Citizens is the 2nd step in Total Governmental Control.....

Randomly capitalizing words is the first step in demonstrating one's lack of writing proficiency.

2 votes

#5.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:48 PM EST

You Can Insult Me All You Want. That Makes You Seem So Much Smarter And So Much Above me. Typical Of Your Kind. Somebody Disagrees With You And You Insult Them.

Now You See Who And Why I Feel The 2nd Amendment Is So Vital. It Makes It Easier To Wipe Out The Dumb Asses.....

Have A Nice Day!

1 vote

#5.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:50 PM EST

Now You See Who And Why I Feel The 2nd Amendment Is So Vital. It Makes It Easier To Wipe Out The Dumb Asses.....

I have no words.

Clearly you do not appreciate the irony of your last post.

2 votes

#5.8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 PM EST

Lmao!

Burn!

Good one there!

And sure I do. You might not believe this, but you wouldn't be the 1st person to call me a dumb ass. Nor will you be the last.

I seem to have that effect on people.

Rotflmao!

1 vote

#5.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:44 AM EST

The United States of 2012 is a very different place than the nation was in 1791.

It certainly is.

Early Americans were not faced with an oppressive, overbearing police force, armed to the teeth with batons, tear gas, military caliber assault weapons, body armor, gas masks, helmets, armored personnel carriers, tanks and an "I can kick your ass and get away with it" attitude.

Disarming the Citizens is the 2nd step in Total Governmental Control.....

That is exactly what Adolf Hitler did when he gained control of the Nazi Party in 1933.

And it is exactly the reason why we must protect the 2nd Amendment, lest we lose the Rights guaranteed to us in the 1st Amendment (not mention all the rest of our Constitutional Rights).

Btw, I like those "randomly capitalized words" Scream, it makes it more of a Decree than a statement.

1 vote

#5.10 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:02 PM EST

Thx Jer'! I agree!

And I like this posting you made here. You said everything I wanted to!

1 vote

#5.11 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:30 PM EST